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Post by jloi on Sept 26, 2020 18:50:02 GMT -5
I saw something on the web somewhere that started me thinking again . about de-rusting my vise . so I started searching around . I watched several , this is the one I went with .
first thing I did was soak everything in gas and use my parts brush to degrease everything - then I cleaned that with laundry soap and then again with liquid ajax to try to get the petroleum residue off .
I got a bag of this -
before -
after -
that was overnite - about 15 hrs . I think I only needed about 4-6 hours .
the base plate and threaded rod/handle is still cooking - wasn't room for everything -
looking into the barrel you can see the female portion that accepts the threaded rod for the handle . it is removable but I would have to drill out the pin I'm pointing to ; and there's another on the opposite side . then I'd have to get2 more pins . I don't know if they're swedges or just strait pins .
here's the pin-
so , it seems it worked just fine for removing all the rust. but I'm left with a greenish powdery stuff when I wire brush it or use the little sand paper dealie in my small drill . .
It still has some old paint - everywhere . debating on just going ahead and spending $150.00 + or - to have it glass beaded to satisfy my OCD perfectionism . whatever I do I want to take the female threads out .
also, I have some of this 45% really strong , burn you real good vinegar - so I put the small parts in a container just to see what that will do .
where it is down to bare metal is where I used the sandpaper flapper wheel in my drill. I don't know if that's the best idea to take it down to bare metal with that . plus, there's places I can't get to .
have to call Wilton on Monday about replacement parts ; rubber washers for the handle ; 2 new pins maybe for when I drill out the old ones . probably get some 400 grit wet or dry ; a new bolt for the serated jaws for one side .
I used white lithium grease to lube the vise .
also , in the gripping serated jaws , a screw/bolt is broken off down in the threaded hole . need to drill that out and that'll give me a chance to use my Chinesium thread tapper again . don't think I have one that small though .
I checked - there's some some sort of reaction going on in the container with the vinegar . we'll see .
3-4 hours later - the large base plate for the vise looks great .no paint . no rust . the small parts in the vinegar - no difference ; already done .
well I'm not satisfied with the 2 largest parts since they still have paint which even collected on the male portion of the barrel - which wasn't even painted .
So , now I'm moving on to this - this guy's good .
anybody have any words of wisdom . other ideas ?
edit - forgot to mention , I already bought the Hammered green paint not long after I got the vise and a can of etching primer - but I used the primer - a new can will be here Thurs . hope the small stuff doesn't rust .
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Post by jloi on Sept 28, 2020 10:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by geoffh on Sept 28, 2020 14:29:59 GMT -5
Jloi,I have used electrolysis ,battery, water,baking soda to great effect on rusted parts, it cleans all the hard to bits, make sure to leave the door open.
Geoff
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Post by aeroxbud on Sept 28, 2020 15:38:48 GMT -5
Love seeing some of these old tools brought back to life.
Over here the hammered paint is called hammerite. It is designed to be used on bare metal. No primer needed.
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Post by jloi on Sept 29, 2020 12:39:13 GMT -5
thanks Geoff- I almost went with electrolysis but thought I'd try something a little simpler, after the acid - something in a can .ha . hopefully the oven cleaner is as good as the guys on the lathe forum claim .to finish getting the paint off .
also, I saw a good video where a guy used Hammerite and I even checked out their company . we don't have it over here and I think it would be too expensive for me . but I'll tell you what - I really loved the look of the tool box the guy painted with it. a really rich lustrous green deep rich , made it look thick . I don't think the hammered green from rustoleum is gonna be like that . it's a lighter green , kinda pale .
well , wish me luck . I talked with Wilton tech guy yesterday and most all the small parts, screws etc. are available and affordable and he gave me part numbers to make it easy for me to order . he says some of the parts were originally chromed finish . ..... can't have everything . also , he told me I should be able to knock out the roll pins with a small punch and just get some more at Home Depot .
and he told me white lithium was perfect , used sparingly .
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Post by jloi on Sept 29, 2020 14:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by geoffh on Sept 29, 2020 15:29:22 GMT -5
Jloi,I don't,t know if you can get this stuff in USA but it,s sold in our independent hardware stores in the UK,not only does it get rid of rust it prevents it,s return I daub it on all exposed metal to keep things clear,my front brake disc is still shiney 12 months after application.  And it lasts this bottle £1 3shilling and 6pence.  Geoff |
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Post by jloi on Sept 29, 2020 15:34:02 GMT -5
hmmm , that's a good idea cause there's a lot of the vise that doesn't get painted . I'll check ......... amazon
Edit - well Amazon took me to Amazon UK so it won't be worth shipping etc . , but thanks a lot for the tip . also now it's just paint , the Oxalic acid did good on the rust . I really hope the Mr. Muscle removes the paint and the dusty green film .
it's all sitting on my table/bench in the garage and it's rained hard and long twice but I don't see any rust coming back yet . primer , 400 grit and pins should be here Thurs .
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Post by aeroxbud on Sept 29, 2020 18:12:59 GMT -5
Making progress. They seem very helpful about buying parts. A lot of companies wouldn't be so forthcoming. Just want you to buy new.
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Post by jloi on Sept 29, 2020 18:41:29 GMT -5
oh yeah , absolutely helpful.
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Post by FrankenMech on Sept 29, 2020 20:41:32 GMT -5
I make a mixture of high pressure grease and graphite, purchased as a powder in a can, to grease things like the vise screw and nut. Nasty black crap when mixed, but it works real good in high pressure applications.
For cleaning up rusty stuff I just use a mixture of water and muriatic acid from the home box store. It does not take long, just rinse with baking soda water and more plain water afterward to neutralize the acid.
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Post by jloi on Sept 29, 2020 22:36:50 GMT -5
yeah , I'm mulling over what to use for the last rinse/cleaning before I paint- alcohol, brake cleaner or baking soda . the etching primer came early /today
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Post by FrankenMech on Sept 30, 2020 0:32:20 GMT -5
If you have already washed and rinsed it brake cleaner will work great. Do it outside to avoid fumes.
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Post by jloi on Oct 1, 2020 23:06:30 GMT -5
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Post by jloi on Oct 1, 2020 23:20:54 GMT -5
the oven cleaner worked great to get ALL the paint off- but it all rusted again immediately upon air drying. so I looked around at some other products and while searching explored re- chromeing for a couple of the smaller parts and stumbled across a guy locally who will sandblast everything for "around" $50.00 . I'll try to get it all to him on Monday . I'll have to settle for leaving all the small chromed parts not chromed . I greased the handle and screw immediately after using the wire wheel on the bench grinder . that was originally chrome too . I thought glass bead would be more appropriate but the guy said that's for polishing and he'd blast it. didn't say what kind of media . so I just need to be ready to paint it Monday too .
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