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Post by awines2326 on Jul 5, 2023 14:50:51 GMT -5
New rotor and nut installed! Jumped the main jet up and it still pulls strong! But now I'm seeing a new issue with the electrical. I'm running a trail tech vapor and when I hit higher RPMs it surges the electronics and the vapor shuts down and will keep turning on and off until I shut the bike off after that. What could I have done wrong for that?
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Post by awines2326 on Jul 31, 2023 20:12:22 GMT -5
Fun update to this build. I've had it parked and torn down now since this last post because shortly after I went for about a 3 mile ride that resulted in an exhaust side leak between either the cylinder and plate or plate and case. I removed the cylinder and when trying to pull the adapter plate off and 2 of the fancy titanium bolts I used stripped. So I've spent the last few weeks accumulating a reverse drill kit that wouldn't snap or burn up immediately on the titanium. Finally got them out and I think the issue was actually the exhaust flange being a bit too big for the adapter plate causing it to not seal properly. And in the process of removing the cylinder all of the bolts to the studs stripped as well. So all in all I've had a hell of a time with the S6 hardware on this kit. I had similar issues with the 70cc kit but they broke due to vibrations not being taken off and put on.
But good news I got cool new bars and a bar clamp that looks way better than the stock setup and I should have this thing back on the street in a day or two to see what else I can break!
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Post by awines2326 on Jul 31, 2023 20:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by pete130 on Jul 31, 2023 22:08:02 GMT -5
Fun update to this build. I've had it parked and torn down now since this last post because shortly after I went for about a 3 mile ride that resulted in an exhaust side leak between either the cylinder and plate or plate and case. I removed the cylinder and when trying to pull the adapter plate off and 2 of the fancy titanium bolts I used stripped. So I've spent the last few weeks accumulating a reverse drill kit that wouldn't snap or burn up immediately on the titanium. Finally got them out and I think the issue was actually the exhaust flange being a bit too big for the adapter plate causing it to not seal properly. And in the process of removing the cylinder all of the bolts to the studs stripped as well. So all in all I've had a hell of a time with the S6 hardware on this kit. I had similar issues with the 70cc kit but they broke due to vibrations not being taken off and put on. But good news I got cool new bars and a bar clamp that looks way better than the stock setup and I should have this thing back on the street in a day or two to see what else I can break! Wow ive never hurd of titanium bolts snapping, im not a fan of the stage6 motor parts, I like there breaks and eletrics gages that's sort of stuff, ive had trouble with there mk2 race barrels and there pistons, the ring pin on piston is pushed to far in, fails a lot and let ring spin around piston. Not good, but a lot of people swear buy them. My new bike has full down hill bar set up
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Post by awines2326 on Jul 31, 2023 23:02:22 GMT -5
Wasn't an issue of the titanium bolt snapping, it actually stripped when I was pulling it out, 2 of the 4 that is. I used titanium bolts because on my 70cc the S6 bolts snapped on a ride so I used titanium on it and they've held ever since. But I've not had to tear it down again so who knows if they'll strip. But if you've ever tried to drill and extract a titanium bolt it's a pain in the ass. But hopefully I'll have a leak free system after this! I only went the couple miles and noticed the leak but it manages to put a nice burn on the exhaust side of the piston that quick.
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Post by pete130 on Aug 1, 2023 1:51:23 GMT -5
Wasn't an issue of the titanium bolt snapping, it actually stripped when I was pulling it out, 2 of the 4 that is. I used titanium bolts because on my 70cc the S6 bolts snapped on a ride so I used titanium on it and they've held ever since. But I've not had to tear it down again so who knows if they'll strip. But if you've ever tried to drill and extract a titanium bolt it's a pain in the ass. But hopefully I'll have a leak free system after this! I only went the couple miles and noticed the leak but it manages to put a nice burn on the exhaust side of the piston that quick. I've done the same thing with standard bolts, on rc-one cases so I ended up getting the flange and intake done in helia coils, I use a anti seze grease sorry I can't rember what's the proper name but it does help on motors that heat up and cool down a lot and helps thread crosion. Glad you got it sorted out, I was livid when I snaped a bolt in intake it broke in 2 places and being new cases I took to my machineiet to heli coil all the bolt holes
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Post by awines2326 on Aug 1, 2023 17:32:20 GMT -5
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Post by awines2326 on Aug 1, 2023 17:33:54 GMT -5
I was able to throw it back together and make a squick run down the road and it is back operational without any type of air leak! But it does look like I have a water leak where the cylinder attaches to the plate so hopefully a tightening after its heat cycle will nip that...
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Post by 808ministroke on Sept 1, 2023 2:18:18 GMT -5
sorry wrong thread, but a great thread at that🚀
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Post by awines2326 on Jun 6, 2024 15:03:00 GMT -5
Well I have officially melted the 95cc S6! Stupid mistake, I think. Dropped jetting a bit last week when I got it going for the summer because it was having a hard time running acting super rich. It had been parked in December because my son managed to break the MVT mount bolts on a ride and melt the stator on the inner rotor. Anyways got it back together with yet another new MVT ignition and timed it at .45mm BTDC. The jetting was for much colder temps so it made sense it was rich, dropped down and boom running like a top! Went for a quick cruise earlier today and decided to give it some beans! At around 80mph up a hill I heard the dreaded drone of a piston about to stick. Sure enough, we get a seize at that 80ish mph and I'm now going downhill while the back tire can no longer spin. Was able to keep it straight until the piston unstuck and proceeded to shred the nicasil of the cylinder.
Now the question is, another R/T 95cc kit, or thr 100cc FLR?
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Post by billwill on Jun 6, 2024 15:43:40 GMT -5
New rotor and nut installed! Jumped the main jet up and it still pulls strong! But now I'm seeing a new issue with the electrical. I'm running a trail tech vapor and when I hit higher RPMs it surges the electronics and the vapor shuts down and will keep turning on and off until I shut the bike off after that. What could I have done wrong for that? Don't know if you've fixed this yet or not, but you need to run a resistor type plug, so something like a BR8HS as opposed to a B9HS or a BR10HIX instead of a B10HS. Worked for me! Sorry to hear about the meltdown :-( Looks like a spark plug is the least of your worries for a bit. I just bought a Typhoon, same color as this and am looking forward to getting into it! Won't be anything like the beast you have but I think a good daily ripper.
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Post by awines2326 on Jun 6, 2024 18:58:49 GMT -5
I had thrown on a resistor cap that requires the plug top be unscrewed,not sure whatbits called. But I was running an NGK B7ES or something like that, the 7 heat extended thread. Ran good on one all last year, it's what I use in my 70cc S6 R/T also
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Post by awines2326 on Jun 7, 2024 7:41:13 GMT -5
I elected to go with the 95cc kit once again to simplify things like not changing the crank again for the 3mm extra stroke. Waiting for the fresh kit to get delivered.
This kit was definitely the wildest I've had lol I think I'm going to play with the porting a bit this time.
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Post by awines2326 on Jun 7, 2024 13:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by Lucass2T on Jun 8, 2024 1:07:51 GMT -5
What happened? You ran it too lean?
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